"As Democrats, we have to remember that it’s not just about the popular vote. ... We have to expand our map. We have to do better in rural America and in the Midwest in order to win this election."
Talking Biden and the values contest in 2020
Discussions of Biden’s candidacy, Trump’s values, and striking a balance between contrast and vision on POTUS Satellite Radio's "The Morning Briefing," 4/29/19.